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What's the general opinion on where to leave car keys on a night? I keep them upstairs but i may be having second thoughts. Do you think a wheelclamp would act as a deterent? i mean it's going to take some time to remove.....enough time to call 999 (that's if you hear them!).

If they really want to get them then they probably will.

I'm in an apartment so they'd have to get through 2 good doors first.

Probably not wise to tell people where you keep your keys but it's sensible not to leave them within sight of a window or the letterbox.

a couple of weeks ago i found a pane of glass shattered in my patio door with no visible signs of what had done it, wife was a bit on edge given the contents of the driveway, call put out to boys in blue who came round to take a look and confirm my thoughts that it wasn't a break in.

that said that evening revo anti left was on the golf (and works) and valet setting put on the roc, end of the day its just a car, wasnt too fussed about the roc to be honest, would struggle to replace the golf though

not a nice feeling and a sleepless night

If they want them, and the car, nothing stops them and car age isn't always the driver......

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Been going on for years, I have friends who have had to move house because even it being next door has an effect.

C.

I agree with whats been said, if they are set on getting them best to just hand them over.
Some Burglars on the other hand are opportunists and the last thing they want is to confront you, but they will gladly take you car keys if they spot em. I would keep em somewhere to prevent this. But if some one did come barging into your home demanding you keys I would probably hand them over, Car's insured and can be replaced.


P.S. if your a 16 year old hoody I do have a Large Maglight next to the bed (in case of power failure) with which I may well test you resolve

Anakin wrote:I agree with whats been said, if they are set on getting them best to just hand them over.
Some Burglars on the other hand are opportunists and the last thing they want is to confront you, but they will gladly take you car keys if they spot em. I would keep em somewhere to prevent this. But if some one did come barging into your home demanding you keys I would probably hand them over, Car's insured and can be replaced.


P.S. if your a 16 year old hoody I do have a Large Maglight next to the bed (in case of power failure) with which I may well test you resolve

I know what you meant, but for some reason it gives me the strange image of you shinning it in their eyes......

I do agree though put them out of sight, but if they are that determined probably best to just hand them over. or give them the key something else call the police while they go try it..

If they want a car, they dont even need the keys. My dad had a porsche 993 Turbo stolen from our drive. Anything remotely nice looking (be it a golf or a porsche) is usually stolen by professional people.

Police told us they can intercept the code between the key and the car (only have to be in the area), enter the car and then usually roll it on to a trailer. If it has a tracker it goes into a container and then taken out.

You can hide the keys, but they know you have them. Its not unheard for people to be tied up and forced to hand over keys. Car jacking occurs regular enough as well.

hi guys, reading this is scary, and i live in a **** area. driving my black rocco around i get a lot of people looking,but they look in a bad way. a neighbour who had a Subaru, he pulled into his drive and a white golf pulled behind him, four men with masks came out put a gun to his head for his keys, he gave them, but he had the clifford alarm system put in with the black jacks and they didn't get far until the engine cut out, but the thought of that happening to my neighbour i am thinking of also getting the clifford black jack system put in............has anyone thought of this? if so would it any way void warranty on my car?

Chani: A high end security system should not invalidate your warranty unless it was strongly associated with an electrics failure that you claimed under warranty for. It should have a very positive effect on your insurance premium if you live in a dodgy area, unless the insurance company decide your car isn't a high enough risk for theft to benefit from such an elaborate system.

If I lived in an area where I didn't feel that I or the car was safe, i'd buy a banger. I wouldn't want to wake up every morning wondering if my car is still going to be on the drive in 1 piece. Or i'd move - £22K saved on the Roc towards a property in a nicer area (unless you rent).

If we're talking high-calibre professionals, they're going to be looking to hijack or steal something seriously fast or expensive - I think "R" owners would be at the greatest risk amongst Scirocco owners. No one sensible (professional) is going to risk going to jail for a £22K car if a £60K car is as easy to twok, but you may still get your druggies/chancers trying it on.

Fun meter - the whole scanning thing doesn't apply to most newer cars, recent VAGS have the code changed every time the key is put in the ignition. So the car reprograms the key with a new code every time you use it. If someone scans your "old" code and try to use it next time you leave the car unattended then they won't be able to get in because the grabbed code will no longer be valid.

maisbitt wrote:Chani: A high end security system should not invalidate your warranty unless it was strongly associated with an electrics failure that you claimed under warranty for. It should have a very positive effect on your insurance premium if you live in a dodgy area, unless the insurance company decide your car isn't a high enough risk for theft to benefit from such an elaborate system.

If I lived in an area where I didn't feel that I or the car was safe, i'd buy a banger. I wouldn't want to wake up every morning wondering if my car is still going to be on the drive in 1 piece. Or i'd move - £22K saved on the Roc towards a property in a nicer area (unless you rent).

If we're talking high-calibre professionals, they're going to be looking to hijack or steal something seriously fast or expensive - I think "R" owners would be at the greatest risk amongst Scirocco owners. No one sensible (professional) is going to risk going to jail for a £22K car if a £60K car is as easy to twok, but you may still get your druggies/chancers trying it on.

Fun meter - the whole scanning thing doesn't apply to most newer cars, recent VAGS have the code changed every time the key is put in the ignition. So the car reprograms the key with a new code every time you use it. If someone scans your "old" code and try to use it next time you leave the car unattended then they won't be able to get in because the grabbed code will no longer be valid.

I'd agree unless you own an R its more likely someone will trash it rather than take, aren't people just awesome sometimes .


Oh and I'm not the spelling police but consent is spelt with a C hehe......

chani1312 wrote:hi guys, reading this is scary, and i live in a **** area. driving my black rocco around i get a lot of people looking,but they look in a bad way. a neighbour who had a Subaru, he pulled into his drive and a white golf pulled behind him, four men with masks came out put a gun to his head for his keys, he gave them, but he had the clifford alarm system put in with the black jacks and they didn't get far until the engine cut out, but the thought of that happening to my neighbour i am thinking of also getting the clifford black jack system put in............has anyone thought of this? if so would it any way void warranty on my car?

I can relate to this mate. I too live in a less than salubrious area and i regularly get evil looks when i'm driving. I love the car but to be honest the attention it gets where i live isn't a good thing to have on ones mind. I think it will be only a matter of time before it's vandalised. It's inevitable actually...too many scrotes around. So i'm saving up to move to a lovely area but that's 18 months away at present...fingers crossed eh!

even if the house or car security is the best, thieves will follow you home to jack you, or wait until you appraoch your car in the supermarket, or use the 'paper on the back window technique'.

i am afraid in the present climate, we drivers hardly get any protection.

contrast this to the Gulf countries where people just leave the car running while they pop into a shop to buy some cigarette, so that the air-con stays on.

somehow, hand cutting seems to be the best solution....

skyblues11 wrote:even if the house or car security is the best, thieves will follow you home to jack you, or wait until you appraoch your car in the supermarket, or use the 'paper on the back window technique'.

i am afraid in the present climate, we drivers hardly get any protection.

contrast this to the Gulf countries where people just leave the car running while they pop into a shop to buy some cigarette, so that the air-con stays on.

somehow, hand cutting seems to be the best solution....

Or if the car could fill itself with that expanding foam if reported stolen

Unfortunately if David Cameron says " we will pledge to increase punishment for crimes, one being to cut off thieves hands..." I dont think he'll do well on a leaders debate.
Would get my vote though.

maisbitt wrote:
Fun meter - the whole scanning thing doesn't apply to most newer cars, recent VAGS have the code changed every time the key is put in the ignition. So the car reprograms the key with a new code every time you use it. If someone scans your "old" code and try to use it next time you leave the car unattended then they won't be able to get in because the grabbed code will no longer be valid.

I can back this up- for your modern, Thatcham Cat 2 alarmed and immobilised car, it's a shedload easier to nick a tow truck or low loader, lift the object of your criminal desire, and drive off as fast as your wheels will carry you, than it is to hotwire it.

The alternative generally involves getting an engine control unit, ignition and key set from a similar car, and changing out the whole lot- a few hours work for most folks, during which time the alarm's going off and you've had to smash your way into the cabin to open the bonnet.

Small wonder the scrotes these days would rather steal the keys.

Just thought i'd add an experience my mate had last year. He had a golf gti . Anyway he parked up as usual one night in the drive when he got home. His daughter came in after him and parked her fiat behind him...so her car was blocking his way out.

All went to bed at the usual time. When his daughter got up in the morning both cars were gone (hers had been pushed out on to the road and parked up). His GTI was gone completely. The car thieves had punched the lock out on the UPVC door and took his keys as he left them downstairs. The family obviously never heard a thing.

His next door neighbours had excellent CCTV coverage of the breakin. The coppers said the thieves were armed with crow bars and there were 3 of them who entered the house. The coppers also said if he hadn't have left his keys downstairs the thieves would almost certainly have come upstairs and taken them by violence if needed! Scary stuff.

Ive just found out that over the past 12 months my typical suburban estate in Doncaster has been targeted several times by car thieves. It seems that the scirocco isn't particularly wanted as my 2.0 TSI has sat on the drive for over 18mths and was never targetted. Fave steal was Audis especially S3 and BMWs. The gang was caught and were travelling from Manchester to thieve from South Yorkshire on a regular basis. Seems like the Roc isn;t such a valued prize after all.

veeedubba wrote:Seems like the Roc isn;t such a valued prize after all.

Ah, but these are still early-ish days. I think thieves ignore cars that are fairly rare, e.g. new models, particularly those in short supply. Once the numbers reach a certain level (which is probably fairly soon in the Scirocco's case), they might be considered an easier car to 'process'.