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Mapped or not

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:26 pm
by Iceash
Hey all,

Had my rocco 3 weeks now, had new injectors, coils, spark plugs and inlet de-coked.

The speed is incredible, torque steer, wheel spin 1st and 2nd, dry and wet.

So this got me wondering if it's mapped?

And way to tell without asking the garage?

Btw, if you've not had a de Coke done, do it! Transforms the car!

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:59 pm
by blower
+1 on decoke!, always said coke is bad for you :)

Do a few 0-60's, probably easiest and cheapest way to tell if its been remapped.

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:03 pm
by Iceash
blower wrote:+1 on decoke!, always said coke is bad for you :)

Do a few 0-60's, probably easiest and cheapest way to tell if its been remapped.
Ah! Good point lol. If chipped, what should I expect 0 to 60 times to be?

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:53 am
by blower
If using the speedometer with a manual timer or an OBD2 device then the 0-60 is around 6 seconds with a DSG or a good manual shifter.

The official 0-60 is 6.9 seconds, but that's because its using the real speed - the speedometer is usually between 5 and 10% out, always showing more speed than reality.
Also that's 0-62 and not 0-60.
A GPS based 0-60 timer will give around 6.7 seconds.

All this is for the original 210ps GT 2.0 TSI model.

Basically if you're measuring closer to 5 seconds with a timer and speedometer reading, then you're mapped.

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:25 am
by 3t3p
whats the de-coking do and how is it done and what are the benefits?

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:39 am
by Iceash
blower wrote:If using the speedometer with a manual timer or an OBD2 device then the 0-60 is around 6 seconds with a DSG or a good manual shifter.

The official 0-60 is 6.9 seconds, but that's because its using the real speed - the speedometer is usually between 5 and 10% out, always showing more speed than reality.
Also that's 0-62 and not 0-60.
A GPS based 0-60 timer will give around 6.7 seconds.

All this is for the original 210ps GT 2.0 TSI model.

Basically if you're measuring closer to 5 seconds with a timer and speedometer reading, then you're mapped.
That's fantastic info, thanks very much.

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:42 am
by Iceash
3t3p wrote:whats the de-coking do and how is it done and what are the benefits?
De coking, clears all the carbon from the inlet, so allows the air to enter the chambers correctly. Also if coked enough the inlet valves won't completely close.

I'm sure someone can explain it far better than me though :nod:

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:08 pm
by daves2369
You could also check how far she revs up, my 2.0 tsi GT revs to 7k with APR :)

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:34 pm
by Iceash
daves2369 wrote:You could also check how far she revs up, my 2.0 tsi GT revs to 7k with APR :)
I hate bouncing off the limiter though :fall:

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:40 pm
by Paradox1
if top end it still feels as quick as it does in low gears then its mapped.

I feel your pain, I had an injector blow last week. Hopefully getting sorted today.

If a care has been decoked, eventually its going to get coked up again. How long would this take?

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:05 pm
by shrink
susprised you get torque steer. I have an R, which is quite a bit up on power from the GT, and I don't get any torque steer at all, not even hammering it in 2nd.

The day I test drove the R, I test drove a focus ST, and it torque steered like an absolute beast, I found it totally unacceptable.

Maybe the XDS system in the R is tuned more aggressively to deal with the power?

is XDS enabled on the GT as standard?

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:43 pm
by Iceash
Yea I'm surprised re the torque steer, thankfully it's controllable lol

I'll have to try some 0 to 60 at the weekend, maybe I'll get a surprise or two :clap:

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:01 am
by shrink
Iceash wrote:Yea I'm surprised re the torque steer, thankfully it's controllable lol

I'll have to try some 0 to 60 at the weekend, maybe I'll get a surprise or two :clap:
worth seeing if you have XDS enabled, and if not, see if someone can enable it for you in VCDS as it will all but eliminate the torque steer. It is completely absent in my R

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:53 am
by Paradox1
I didn't think the GT Rocco's came with XDS...

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:17 pm
by daves2369
I tried to enable XDS and Hill hold last night on my 2008 GT got coding out of range and an error uninitialised module which nearly gave me a heart attach as my ABS light came on with incorrect coding and couldn't find speed sensor.

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:25 pm
by shrink
I think it needs 2010+ MY cars

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:26 pm
by shrink
Paradox1 wrote:I didn't think the GT Rocco's came with XDS...
My understanding is that it can just be turned on, as its simply a function of the stability / ABS program. There are various modes of severity it can be enabled for (e.g. 1, for only light interference, up to 2 for strong) the R comes preset to 2.

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:17 pm
by Iceash
I best be looking into that one then. I do have the manual box? Will that make a difference?

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:15 pm
by shrink
Iceash wrote:I best be looking into that one then. I do have the manual box? Will that make a difference?
Nope

Re: Mapped or not

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:31 pm
by Iceash
Lit them up again this morning, followed a bus into a new road was clear so popped past him, tc light flashing away lol wasn't even floored (1st gear)