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Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:07 pm
by greg7728
Hey guys. Wondered if anyone may be able to help, had engine rebuild recently got car back yesterday, was sitting in her after much detailing and had engine running, then noticed the steering fault light was yellow, and abs / skid light on yellow and stereo switched itself off, wasn't really sure what was going on as hadn't moved (did 50milesnyesterday and drove fine) took key out and waited and went to re start, it's like the battery is dead now, click click click, error lights still there and the window isn't going all the way up to seal when I lock the doors. Quite worried as cannot start her, the steering error light changed to red - but not is yellow. Have tried jumping the car (jump leads, trickle charge) to see if it was flat battery causing the issue, and still won't start. Anyone have any ideas? Cheers guys.

Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:39 pm
by greg7728
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Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:58 pm
by Phil
Alternator maybe?

You're having some real shit luck mate

Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:02 pm
by greg7728
@phil yep. Alternator wouldn't explain the error lights though with abs and steering systems. So angry - plus windows are stuck down - won't pop up that last little bit and battery seems dead as can't move them. Least we live in a country where rain is uncommon right. Sigh.


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Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:33 pm
by Phil
I think those lights come up when the battery goes dead as they're all electronic. I'm just wondering if the alternator wasn't charging it, that was a little warning before all shut down. Maybe worth giving it a good charge over night, plugging it back in and seeing how you go :)

Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:50 pm
by greg7728
I'm hoping it's something simple like they didn't connect the cable to the alternator properly and its come loose, did 50miles yesterday and was fine. Tried trickle charging using my wife's car, didn't seem to do anything. Not really having a great time with the car lately. Not sure how can get it back to garage either my bd isn't home start. Hits keep on coming


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Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:04 pm
by Cuprabob
Check the connections around the battery, especially the earth strap.

Give the battery a good charge.

Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:22 pm
by greg7728
Put some juice in the battery, managed to get the windows up, and get engine ticking over, however shone a torch under the bonnet, alternator belt moving much slower than normal and there is a small pool of liquid under the alternator, engine sounds like a bag of spammers and when it turning over the revs were at about 500rpm at idle instead of the normal 900 idle it was yesterday. I'm thinking something is definitely wrong here and when ticking over on idle the steering and anti skid yellow warning lights were still both on.


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Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:27 pm
by Cuprabob
The warnings lights won't go out until it's driven. They're on because the steering angle sensor needs to calibrate due to the low voltage.

The alternator belt is driven directly off the crankshaft pulley there turns in relation to engine speed. If you measure the voltage across the battery with the engine running it should be between 13.8 - 14.4V. Although if the alternator isn't doing it's job the battery light would be on.

It could be idling / running rough because it's doing a throttle body calibration, again due to the low voltage / battery disconnect.

Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:36 pm
by greg7728
Do u know what would be causing the engine to run slower and will this likely be damaging the engine? Any idea why the engine speed would be so slow causing the alternator to run slow too? Seems strange this happened while sitting on driveway at idle just died. I haven't got a voltmeter here to test voltage. Concerned that the engine / crankshaft has an issue which is why the alternator belt isn't moving fast enough to provide charge, and concerned the engine sounds awful - would u suggest against driving it until I have spoken to the garage that have just replaced the engine ?


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Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:44 pm
by Cuprabob
If the engine doesn't sound right then don't drive it. Double check the coilpacks are pushed on correctly and that the engine is not misfiring. That certainly would cause a low idle and rough sound.

Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:46 pm
by greg7728
No mis Fire light as before the rebuild. Everything seems in there right. And worked fine for 50 miles yesterday. Just sat at idle on drive and this came out of nowhere. Not what I need after an engine rebuild. Just sounded like a loud ticking noise from the engine .


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Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:53 pm
by Cuprabob
I would just leave it and speak to the garage.

Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:55 pm
by Cuprabob
What was the outcome?

Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:03 pm
by greg7728
Update garage had missed a wire that tells the alternator how much to put in the battery at idle - all done. Quick question anyone know on the 1.4tsi 160 normal revs on idle ?


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Re: Scirocco dead after engine rebuild

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:11 am
by greg7728
@cuprabob sorry missed this, posted at same time u did. Garage said they had missed plugging something in that means the alternator wasn't charging the battery at idle, hence my battery dying and all the errors were due to low voltage. Got her back all seems be working fine. Apparently VW get a lot of these as its common when engines are replaced or major work carried out this is missed, my mechanic had to call his mate at VW and ask - not sure how u can miss a wire but human error I guess, these things happen. He's delivered car back plus full tank fuel for inconvenience - think he was embarrassed his tech had missed it. Glad to have her back and hopefully some hassle free driving from now.


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