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Chassis notch ??

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:36 pm
by W11LVW
Hi guys,, anyone notched there chassis leg on here..
I'm running H&R ultra lows around 80mm down and and getting sick of the shaft banging on the leg so a notch is my only option..
Had a quick look today and it looks like the plastic fuel lines run down through the chassis leg near to where the welding needs to be done..
Just wondering if anyone had done a notch and had taken the fuel lines out and how easy it was..
Thanks..

Re: Chassis notch ??

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:46 pm
by RW1
In this topic......

http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/forum/ ... ed#p108329" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Chassis notch ??

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:57 pm
by scott.taylor
As posted already, that's a link to my build thread, I got a notch about a month ago when my Air Struts went on.
He never had to move any fuel lines as far as I know, just took off all the under trays n that, then used a holesaw to cut through and a really small cutting disc to get the shape he wanted then fabricated some metal and welded it in.

Most folk say I'm daft for doing it to a brand new car, but I'm no gonna spend all that money on air ride and have it sitting higher than it could sit if I notched it.

Re: Chassis notch ??

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:20 pm
by W11LVW
Cheers for the reply.. The lad who is doing mine also notched my mk4 golf and did a great job but the fuel lines didn't pass through the leg on that..
Taking the fuel lines out while the welding is done is only a precoursion just in case any of the weld flash melts one of the lines.. Also thought of wrapping them up in a piece of fire blanket to save taking the fuel lines out..
It is going in this weekend for the work so I will put a few pics up on here once it's been done..
Why would people think you were daft for doing it.. It's not going to weaken the chassis or cause any other problems once the new metal is welded in..

Re: Chassis notch ??

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:18 pm
by Fifer
W11LVW wrote: Why would people think you were daft for doing it.. It's not going to weaken the chassis or cause any other problems once the new metal is welded in..
Yes, it will. Any break or cut into a straight edge will cause a weak point with a tendency to fatigue, particularly in a stressed, flexing load bearing beam. Welding additional metal in will reintroduce some strength, but of course the new metal will have to follow the shape of the notched beam so will have exactly the same inherent weakness. It's perfectly possible with great care, to reinforce the notch in such a way that it will successfully resist any fatigue induced crack from starting and propagating, but it;s not a risk I'd take with £20k+ of car and I'm not entirely sure many insurance companies would either without a significant premium hike.

Re: Chassis notch ??

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:13 am
by W11LVW
Do you not think you are thinking into this to much ??
I ran a notch on my mk4 golf for years with no issues and know of loads of other people who also have had no bother.. In fact iv never heard of notch causing anyone any problems..

Re: Chassis notch ??

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:50 pm
by Jake Turbo
Notches are a ludicrously stupid idea. Purposefully introducing faults into metal... companies spend millions on equipment to identify faults in metal construct and they discard or recycle if any are found.

Welding a small piece of metal to support the fault? I guess engineering isn't a strong point of whoever is doing this?

Too many cowboys in the world of car mods.

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Re: Chassis notch ??

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:14 pm
by polo classic
if you have a 2,0, a 2-pc driveshaft is a better idea

Available from your friendly VW dealer ;)

Re: Chassis notch ??

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:33 pm
by RoccoDav
polo classic wrote:if you have a 2,0, a 2-pc driveshaft is a better idea

Available from your friendly VW dealer ;)


whats a 2-pc driveshaft?? would that help?

Re: Chassis notch ??

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:44 am
by polo classic
44 pages here (in german) http://iroc-forum.de/showthread.php?tid=17219" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

basicly the one on the right here
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1K0-407-522 Zwischenwelle

02Q-409-189 Dichtring

019-502-13 Schraube

1K0-407-516 A Lager

1K0-407-104 A Lagerbock

02Q-409-345 Welle (Geht vom getriebe raus auf dass Zwischenrohr)

105-922-01 Schraube


This could also bee an alternative, slimmer shaft https://specialwaves.de/?product=scirocco-137" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OEM vs Specialwaves
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Re: Chassis notch ??

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:01 pm
by RoccoDav
polo classic wrote:44 pages here (in german) http://iroc-forum.de/showthread.php?tid=17219" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

basicly the one on the right here
Image

Image

Image

Image


1K0-407-522 Zwischenwelle

02Q-409-189 Dichtring

019-502-13 Schraube

1K0-407-516 A Lager

1K0-407-104 A Lagerbock

02Q-409-345 Welle (Geht vom getriebe raus auf dass Zwischenrohr)

105-922-01 Schraube


This could also bee an alternative, slimmer shaft https://specialwaves.de/?product=scirocco-137" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OEM vs Specialwaves
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Good right up that mate! That specialwaves one looks good!


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