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Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:50 pm
by Scirocco909
Yeah I agree I have the 170 and it's plenty powerfull 50mpg everywhere getting it remapped next week tough up to 213 bhp and a lot more torque should be fun!!
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Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:09 am
by CleanDiesel
If you can push your budget for one with a newer 184 TDI's, they're even quicker and more fuel efficient, at least compared to my old mans octy 2 VRS with the 170 tdi.
It's a great engine.
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:37 am
by SteZ4
Thanks for all your help so far.
CleanDiesel, budget is around £12k sadly so a decent 170 is still a stretch!
Looks like the 170 TDI is what I'm after. Just a shame they seem to be rare as hens teeth? Plenty of 140's kicking about, but not so much the 170's.
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:50 am
by SteZ4
Sorry for the stream of newb questions:
On some photos I've seen there's a row of three(?) dials above the nav in the centre of the dash, but on others it doesn't seem to be there. Is this a pop-up feature or is it only available on some models? What exactly are the dials? Cheers
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:59 am
by Phil
That's a facelift thing mate

Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:01 am
by Cuprabob
The 3 dials are on the latest face-lift versions. They display boost, oil temperature and something else I can't remember.
On the pre-facelift 170 diesel you get the oil temperature on the MFD.
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:25 am
by SteZ4
Gotcha, facelift models are post '14 is that right?
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:29 am
by Cuprabob
Facelift is from Model Year 2015, which is cars sold after Summer 2014.
VW's model year changes half way through the calender year. Changeover is Build Week 23
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:31 am
by SteZ4
Perfect.
Thanks for all your help!
So now I know what I'm after, time to to step up the search for a 170TDI 2.0 GT
I want it to have nav, but that's not a big issue because you can buy the head unit and just plug it in right?
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:33 am
by Phil
SteZ4 wrote:Perfect.
Thanks for all your help!
So now I know what I'm after, time to to step up the search for a 170TDI 2.0 GT
I want it to have nav, but that's not a big issue because you can buy the head unit and just plug it in right?
It's almost plug and play haha. You will need a Nav unit and a antenna (which I left in my glove box!). You will need someone with VCDs (have an ask on here) to code in all the functions on the MFD etc.
Not trying to put you off it though, it really is a simple job

Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:20 am
by SteZ4
Spot on, sounds an easy enough job.
Why do 170 variants seem so rare to get? 140's are plentiful but a 170 with low mileage seems as rare as rocking horse shit looking round Autotrader, Pistonheads & eBay!
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:52 am
by chelspeed
Cuprabob wrote:They display boost, oil temperature and something else I can't remember.
Stopwatch.
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:56 am
by Cuprabob
chelspeed wrote:Cuprabob wrote:They display boost, oil temperature and something else I can't remember.
Stopwatch.
Cheers....handy for boiling eggs:-)
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:59 am
by Cuprabob
SteZ4 wrote:Spot on, sounds an easy enough job.
Why do 170 variants seem so rare to get? 140's are plentiful but a 170 with low mileage seems as rare as rocking horse shit looking round Autotrader, Pistonheads & eBay!
You have to remember that most people choose the diesel option for economy and tend to do higher than average miles. Based on that I guess that directs people towards the 140 which with Bluemotion is also cheaper to tax and also means low mileage examples are rare.
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:11 pm
by SteZ4
Fair enough, so it's finding someone who chose the Diesel as a compromise but still wanted a bit more power

Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:14 pm
by Cuprabob
SteZ4 wrote:Fair enough, so it's finding someone who chose the Diesel as a compromise but still wanted a bit more power

Yes, someone like me :-)
Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:21 pm
by whiteDevil_170
Mines a sep 2012 170 gt with stage 1 remap.
Not even done 21,000 yet.
But it's not for sale.
Yet

Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:44 pm
by SteZ4
With regards to the 140 version, is a good remap taking it up to around 170 likely to be as good as the 170bhp version standard?
Struggling to find a decent example of a 170 within my price range (£12k) with heated leather. Plenty of 140's around that are fully specced up, cheaper tbh too so money left over for a remap.
Thoughts?

Obviously there's the point that if I wanted even more power than a remapped 170 could push 200, but lets work on the basis that 170 will be enough

Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:45 am
by SteZ4
Bump

Re: Buying second hand - variants
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:57 am
by Phil
I'd remain patient mate - they do come up, maybe post a thread up with a title saying what your after.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/7637287 ... 5/?fref=ts" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - this facebook group can be quite active too