Retrofit new MIB into older RNS/RCD car.

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Re: Retrofit new MIB into older RNS/RCD car.

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Does anyone know if the green and blue plugs are wired the same between the RNS and DM? I can’t find an adapter that has them all wired in so was hoping I could move them from the original plug to the adapter I’ve got.


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Re: Retrofit new MIB into older RNS/RCD car.

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mateuszmiast wrote:Hi Steve,

upgrade is worth doing but there are some issues you must to mind. Main problem is with the unit because CP can't be removed on vehicle which had no this funcionality from factory, even if you have facelifted model. When you get already blocked stereo you can unlock it with main dealer in vehicle with MIB2 factory fitted but all SWaP functions will be deleted (MirrorLink, NAV, BT, etc.). To activate them you must buy codes from dealer what is not cheap. Best solution is to buy just removed unit from donor car with all options you want to have active. After getting stereo as described you must patch it with hardware (soldered on mainboard) to prevent it from blocking after 8hrs (in vehicle with cluster SW lower than 1xxx). If you have cluster with SW1xxx you must install CAN filter which is disabling cp blocking information from cluster on CAN network.

Regarding other issues, DAB amplifier is needed when your unit has DAB tuner. You must change as I remeber left amplifier in C pillar and wire it, aerial is the same. USB connection or USB hub (what I recommend especially if you think about MirrorLink) is a piece of cake, just installing ports, HUB and wiring. Sat nav aerial of course is needed if your car has not sat nav from factory. Gateway 7N0907530AN (BC/BG) in necessary to work with 5F units.

I made a few conversion with MIB2, so if you have any questions plese do not hesitate to ask.

If you are looking for unit I have 5C0035680E with DAB, MirrorLink, Voice Control, BT, NAV, Wifi, etc. active, patched, with 2xUSB connector hub, gateway, sat nav VDO aerial and quadlock adapter for £700 shipped with DPD.
what hardware modification did you do to MIB PQ unit?
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The following link describes the modifications quite well:
https://www.briskoda.net/forums/applica ... p?id=89213" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mateuszmiast wrote: If you have cluster with SW1xxx you must install CAN filter which is disabling cp blocking information from cluster on CAN network.
I’m part way through this retro fit, had my unit patched by vcdsworx, and I need a CAN filter but I’m having trouble finding exactly what I need. Are you able to point me in the right direction?
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G60ffg wrote:The following link describes the modifications quite well:
https://www.briskoda.net/forums/applica ... p?id=89213" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mateuszmiast wrote: If you have cluster with SW1xxx you must install CAN filter which is disabling cp blocking information from cluster on CAN network.
I’m part way through this retro fit, had my unit patched by vcdsworx, and I need a CAN filter but I’m having trouble finding exactly what I need. Are you able to point me in the right direction?
Ahh! I should send to the unit to vcdsworx to have the patched install as an extra circuit board needs to be installed. Where did you get the head unit?
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Yep that’s it! Got mine from eBay, was a fairly new one out of a T5. Needed an extra CAN filter as mine is a facelift model so the component protection still cut in so that was an extra expense but working great now.

Service from VCDSWorx was really good, quick turnaround and very helpful.


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G60ffg wrote:Yep that’s it! Got mine from eBay, was a fairly new one out of a T5. Needed an extra CAN filter as mine is a facelift model so the component protection still cut in so that was an extra expense but working great now.

Service from VCDSWorx was really good, quick turnaround and very helpful.


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I'm thinking about getting the headunit from eBay too but I don't know the CP counter of each unit. I understand that the CP counter can't be reset in pre-facelift car.
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I think VCDSWorx can remove the CP when it’s patched. Mine had the CP active and they were able to sort it. Might be worth dropping them a message to ask.


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Re: Retrofit new MIB into older RNS/RCD car.

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at the moment ... all radio can be do ;)
radio what have CP activate already on the screen, or working radio what need only add extra option (like voice command for example)

all available unit Skoda, Seat, VW ..... US , EU, China

CAN filter and patch need only when radio have CarNet enable , because system is checking car VIN and compare with registered VIN in radio
If radio have no CarNet... only need proper Quad Lock from RNS 510 to MIB and all is working, and never been lock
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https://eurozonetuning.com/products/vw- ... 5352742973

Found this one. On the website, it doesn't mention about patching
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https://uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?t=72768

Saw this forum. Can CP deactivation be done without patching board?
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Marius336 wrote:VW cant do it.

You need Spezial board soldert on the main board, ore you can do 3d Premium Cluster and use Component Protekion like factory,

!!!! But VW cant do it !!!!

Ask VCDSWorks ore VAGMods on Facebook, they do evry DM here in germany.
Hi, I have the 3D premium cluster installed in my 2011 Scirocco car, do I still need to go for the special board on the mainboard? or I can remove the Component Protection using the ODIS?
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G60ffg wrote:The following link describes the modifications quite well:
https://www.briskoda.net/forums/applica ... p?id=89213" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
mateuszmiast wrote: If you have cluster with SW1xxx you must install CAN filter which is disabling cp blocking information from cluster on CAN network.
I’m part way through this retro fit, had my unit patched by vcdsworx, and I need a CAN filter but I’m having trouble finding exactly what I need. Are you able to point me in the right direction?
Hi,
I read the document but I still have questions.
Is it possible that the Official VW Dealer assign the 2011 Rocco VIN to the MIB II Discover Media so it can work fine without any problems? And if he did it then should I do the motherboard patching?
Thx
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Re: Retrofit new MIB into older RNS/RCD car.

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VW wont do it

There are 2 Options with youre 3D Cluster.
1. Solder board on mainboard AND use Can-filter for youre 3d cluster ( 2D and black and white dont need that. )
2. fuse Cluster and Radio togethere like factory ( only works on 3d cluster ) VCDSWorkx will do this VW not.
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Marius336 wrote:VW wont do it

There are 2 Options with youre 3D Cluster.
1. Solder board on mainboard AND use Can-filter for youre 3d cluster ( 2D and black and white dont need that. )
2. fuse Cluster and Radio togethere like factory ( only works on 3d cluster ) VCDSWorkx will do this VW not.
May I ask why VW won’t do it? My question is can they do it or not? If they can do it using their official tool then appreciate telling me how?

What is the fuse Cluster and Radio means?
Sorry for keep asking :)
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VW only can do it in cars with the Discover media from factory. So only replace broken unit.

If VW try to deaktivat the Component protection in youre car, ODIS will tell its not for this Car.

VCDSWorkx can make youre Cluster and DM together like factory, what VW cant do to older cars. So you dont need the can filter and Component protektion is activ, like factory but on older car.
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Hi
I have a few questions about this process after you coded the radio in your friends caddy did the component protection ever come back and do you know how they coded it in you friends caddy was it coded to your sciroccos vin number and how much did it cost to activate everything?
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blscargo wrote:Hi
I have a few questions about this process after you coded the radio in your friends caddy did the component protection ever come back and do you know how they coded it in you friends caddy was it coded to your sciroccos vin number and how much did it cost to activate everything?
if car belong to Component protection remove online - dealer can do that easy
if not (older cars) - CP can be remove permanent from radio
not a big deal now
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spacewalker wrote:
blscargo wrote:Hi
I have a few questions about this process after you coded the radio in your friends caddy did the component protection ever come back and do you know how they coded it in you friends caddy was it coded to your sciroccos vin number and how much did it cost to activate everything?
if car belong to Component protection remove online - dealer can do that easy
if not (older cars) - CP can be remove permanent from radio
not a big deal now
Hi,
Could you explain more? I am asking about fitting it in the Scirocco.
Thx
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Re: Retrofit new MIB into older RNS/RCD car.

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spacewalker wrote:
blscargo wrote:Hi
I have a few questions about this process after you coded the radio in your friends caddy did the component protection ever come back and do you know how they coded it in you friends caddy was it coded to your sciroccos vin number and how much did it cost to activate everything?
if car belong to Component protection remove online - dealer can do that easy
if not (older cars) - CP can be remove permanent from radio
not a big deal now
Hi,
Could you explain more? I am asking about fitting it in the Scirocco.
Thx
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Re: Retrofit new MIB into older RNS/RCD car.

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Sorry to drag this up again. Would anyone with this unit fitted be able to post the correct byte/string long coding to show the image of a Scirocco? My unit is out of a T5 although my car sounds like a van I’d rather it show the correct image in the park pilot screen! :-D

If at all possible I’d be very grateful!
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