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Ozmosis wrote:Yes Ben I agree, the weather was expected to play a bigger part in the race, plus there is often a safety car at some point during the race in Malaysia, so maybe the teams were fuelling for that too...

I just read something very interesting about the Pirelli tyres, from the Pirelli guys: They have been told to "level the playing field" by the FIA, and this is the result. They also think that if the tyres were not like this, then the Red Bulls may have lapped EVERYONE at this circuit!
Very interesting indeed around the tyre info, so this would imply different teams have different quality tyres even though they are supposed to be controlled?

Also I do miss a good fuel stop, even though its probably been made safer it added to the race re strategies and working who was doing what.
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2013 FORMULA 1 UBS CHINESE GRAND PRIX


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Race Date: 14 Apr 2013
Circuit Name: Shanghai International Circuit
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Number of Laps: 56
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Ozmosis wrote:Yes Ben I agree, the weather was expected to play a bigger part in the race, plus there is often a safety car at some point during the race in Malaysia, so maybe the teams were fuelling for that too...

I just read something very interesting about the Pirelli tyres, from the Pirelli guys: They have been told to "level the playing field" by the FIA, and this is the result. They also think that if the tyres were not like this, then the Red Bulls may have lapped EVERYONE at this circuit!
Very interesting indeed around the tyre info, so this would imply different teams have different quality tyres even though they are supposed to be controlled?

Also I do miss a good fuel stop, even though its probably been made safer it added to the race re strategies and working who was doing what.

I think the implication was more to do with the tyres having more degradation when the car produces more downforce. Downforce rules F1 at the minute, and the Red Bulls have the most thanks to Newey's genius (as always).

Pirelli recently said they will be reviewing the compounds for their tyres after the Bahrain GP. We'll see what happens...
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So the tyres could have ruined Q3 for everyone, except for the last 3 minutes. Something surely needs to be looked at here...

Anyway, EXCELLENT job by Hamilton, Raikkonen, Alonso, and Ricciardo. It's a drive like that which could lead to a Red Bull seat when Webber gets left out in the cold! Hopefully he'll do the same in the race.

Going to be interesting to see how Button and Vettel do later in the race when they need to use their softs.
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I think they'll have to insist all the drivers put in a competitive time.
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2013 FORMULA 1 GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX


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Race Date: 21 Apr 2013
Circuit Name: Bahrain International Circuit
First Grand Prix: 2004
Number of Laps: 57
Circuit Length: 5.412 km
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was very nice to wake up at 7:00am to Suzi Perry on a Sunday morning, pity she was on TV

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FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2013


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Catalunya
Race Date: 12 May 2013
Circuit Name: Circuit de Catalunya
First Grand Prix: 1991
Number of Laps: 66
Circuit Length: 4.655 km
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Lap Record: 1:21.670 - K Raikkonen (2008)

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FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2013


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Race Date: 26 May 2013
Circuit Name: Circuit de Monaco
First Grand Prix: 1950
Number of Laps: 78
Circuit Length: 3.340 km
Race Distance: 260.520 km
Lap Record: 1:14.439 - M Schumacher (2004)

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FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2013


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Montréal
Race Date: 09 Jun 2013
Circuit Name: Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve
First Grand Prix: 1978
Number of Laps: 70
Circuit Length: 4.361 km
Race Distance: 305.270 km
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Come on Kimi!! :p
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Ozmosis wrote:Come on Kimi!! :p
Got to think the Lotus' will be strong on a track where tyre wear (and its' management) is so critical. I remember Grosjean performing well in Canada last year too...It could be a good opportunity to put recent mistakes behind him and finally kick on.
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Yeah hopefully Grosjean can pck himself up. He's not had a good time of it this year so far.

I wonder if Perez will be the human cannonball again??
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2013 FORMULA 1 SANTANDER BRITISH GRAND PRIX


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Race Date: 30 Jun 2013
First Grand Prix: 1950
Number of Laps: 52
Circuit Length: 5.891 km
Race Distance: 306.198 km
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Great pics Kev, hopefully the weather will be alright for the race but then again a bit of rain never did a race any harm :-)
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FORMULA 1 MAGYAR NAGYDÍJ 2013


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2013 FORMULA 1 SHELL BELGIAN GRAND PRIX


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Race Date: 25 Aug 2013
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First Grand Prix: 1950
Number of Laps: 44
Circuit Length: 7.004 km
Race Distance: 308.052 km
Lap Record: 1:47.263 - S Vettel (2009)

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2013 FORMULA 1 SINGTEL SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX


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Race Date: 22 Sep 2013
Circuit Name: Marina Bay Street Circuit
First Grand Prix: 2008
Number of Laps: 61
Circuit Length: 5.065 km
Race Distance: 308.828 km
Lap Record: 1:45.599 - K Raikkonen (2008)

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2013 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX


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Suzuka
Race Date: 13 Oct 2013
First Grand Prix: 1987
Number of Laps: 53
Circuit Length: 5.807 km
Race Distance: 307.471 km
Lap Record: 1:31.540 - K. Raikkonen (2005)

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