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turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby Cjaay90 » Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:29 am

Hi!
Im 100% new here on the forum.
Had a scirocco 2.0tfsi once, but baught myself a scirocco R yesterday, and love it!

But there is one thing that i so truly madly deeply wanna make possible, and that is to code in so that the orange light in the headlamps stays on all the time.
with DRL and 60% orange bulb light on, it will give u the look '' i will kill u '' if i am behind someone.

I know it was possible to code so the turn light on normal sciroccos stays on, but ordinary sciroccos have it in the led bar.


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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby Roy_01 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:22 am

Have looked for this but it isn't in the longcoding helper anymore after MY10.
It might be possible but haven't seen in yet with vcds coding.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby Cjaay90 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:12 pm

Yea, ive tried everything so far aswell.
Vagcom wont show it, and OBDeleven shows it, but when i activate it nothing happens.

So i guess it is impossible with coding, i think u need to physicaly do something with the module.
And that is sad, because making those turn signals stay on, would make the front look so badass.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby Cjaay90 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:20 pm

Bump, no one got a clue if it is possible or not with the vcds?
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby charliegilmanuk » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:44 pm

Mine is like this at the moment only there's a white LED in there instead (as with all non R with bi-xenons), I actually used coding to reverse mine from being on all the time to only operating with turn signal (identical to your functionality) just as a test, see video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3ho3kihmcyku ... 0.mp4?dl=0

For coding I quoted from another post:
charliegilmanuk wrote:
Coding Dashboard Computer
Use VAGCOM and go into controller 9 (dashboardcomputer) and into longcoding helper.
Byte 01, change the third character from 0 to 1 (f.x. 10 1 01110) (this will turn on the DRLs and off the low-beam in daylight. At night the DRLs turn off and low-beam on again)If You leave this at 0, then the DRLs will be off day and night, BUT will flash with the turnsignal! (yellow bulbs optional:-)


Taken from: http://www.scirocconet.co.uk/forum/how- ... 77-60.html



The only major BUT is that you would require indicators somewhere else, as it simply can't be a DRL and an indicator at the same time.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby charliegilmanuk » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:50 pm

Further to the above, just been out there tonight testing various things, I've managed to get the DRL in the headlight to stay on at all times, even when main beam is on.

Coding was in a hidden bit under byte 2 in the central conv module (09), I manually changed bit 5 to 1 in the manual coding above. My module may be different as none of the guides seem to match up for mine, it ends in 049-E but I've attached a picture so you should be able to find what I'm talking about.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c2u6c318k9bfo ... 0.jpg?dl=0


So to clarify, switch positions:
Off: DRL only, no sidelights
Auto: Night time: DRL on, dipped beam on, no sidelights. Day time: DRL only
Sidelights: DRL only, no sidelights
On: DRL on, dipped beam on, no sidelights

This sounds like what you want to achieve, unsure of the outcome on the R but should be similar, however as said above, what are you gonna do about indicators seeing as with this coding they would be always on?

Edit: just actually watched the video in your post, this does sound like exactly what you need, in the video it looks like he's installed some third party DRL/indicator unit (Dectane or similar) in the grilles so that would be your solution.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby Cjaay90 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:25 pm

Thank you for response, it looks awesome.
But that is a non Scirocco R modell as i can see, and i think the modules is different on Scirocco R.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby charliegilmanuk » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:42 pm

Cjaay90 wrote:Thank you for response, it looks awesome.
But that is a non Scirocco R modell as i can see, and i think the modules is different on Scirocco R.

Bytes and bits may be in a slightly different place because of mine being a MY09 but the functionality should still exist, people 'convert' their cars to R models all the time.
Central convenience module will be very similar if not identical to an equivalent year GT model.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby Cjaay90 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:02 pm

So you think that if i do as u are saying, the turn signal in the headlight will stay on all the time? Guess i cant adjust the % on the bulb tho?
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby charliegilmanuk » Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:45 pm

Cjaay90 wrote:So you think that if i do as u are saying, the turn signal in the headlight will stay on all the time? Guess i cant adjust the % on the bulb tho?


Yes absolutely. And yes you can, haven't got the exact byte but it's in that same module towards the end, I fiddled about with that quite extensively to try and figure out how it worked.

Please see pictures below, this seems exactly what you're looking for, however, imagine that the DRL bulb is orange, the only difference between mine below and what you want is a different colour bulb, mine is just a white LED whereas yours as stock on the R will be orange, the headlight unit itself is the same.

DRL only (switch in off, sidelight position or auto in daylight):

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Dipped beams on (switch in on position or auto in low light):

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[b]Turn signals:[b]

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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby Cjaay90 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:17 pm

I am struggling to figure out how to test and change bits. Mine looks alot different. Any suggestions?

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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby Cjaay90 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:57 pm

Here is where i think there may be a possibility to do something, but i dont understand so much.

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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby xjay1337 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:03 am

charliegilmanuk wrote:
Cjaay90 wrote:So you think that if i do as u are saying, the turn signal in the headlight will stay on all the time? Guess i cant adjust the % on the bulb tho?


Yes absolutely. And yes you can, haven't got the exact byte but it's in that same module towards the end, I fiddled about with that quite extensively to try and figure out how it worked.

Please see pictures below, this seems exactly what you're looking for, however, imagine that the DRL bulb is orange, the only difference between mine below and what you want is a different colour bulb, mine is just a white LED whereas yours as stock on the R will be orange, the headlight unit itself is the same.



The problem is, on R's they use different headlights.
Their DRL are where the indicators are on a non R.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby charliegilmanuk » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:16 pm

xjay1337 wrote:
charliegilmanuk wrote:
Cjaay90 wrote:So you think that if i do as u are saying, the turn signal in the headlight will stay on all the time? Guess i cant adjust the % on the bulb tho?


Yes absolutely. And yes you can, haven't got the exact byte but it's in that same module towards the end, I fiddled about with that quite extensively to try and figure out how it worked.

Please see pictures below, this seems exactly what you're looking for, however, imagine that the DRL bulb is orange, the only difference between mine below and what you want is a different colour bulb, mine is just a white LED whereas yours as stock on the R will be orange, the headlight unit itself is the same.



The problem is, on R's they use different headlights.
Their DRL are where the indicators are on a non R.

I disagree, same headlights but just a different bulb (orange instead of white) and some coding to make them 'act' as indicators. As demonstrated in the video I linked in my earlier post, I changed a single bit in my coding so that my DRLs were turned into indicators. See here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3ho3kihmcyku ... 0.mp4?dl=0

Yes indeed the sidelight/indicator units are different/DRL only on the R, hence why I questioned what he's going to do about the indicators, obviously these would need to be changed to a 3rd party DRL/indicator unit like dectanes and then coded in to work as an indicator, it's all easily done though.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby charliegilmanuk » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:18 pm

Cjaay90 wrote:Here is where i think there may be a possibility to do something, but i dont understand so much.

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You've found the dimming yep, that's the bit I was talking about, 100% is 100% brightness, change as appropriate.

Seems your byte 2 is different, find an option that lists 'Coming home mode' and take a picture of that byte, we'll see where we can go from there.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby xjay1337 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:33 am

charliegilmanuk wrote:I disagree, same headlights but just a different bulb (orange instead of white) and some coding to make them 'act' as indicators. As demonstrated in the video I linked in my earlier post, I changed a single bit in my coding so that my DRLs were turned into indicators. See here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3ho3kihmcyku ... 0.mp4?dl=0

Yes indeed the sidelight/indicator units are different/DRL only on the R, hence why I questioned what he's going to do about the indicators, obviously these would need to be changed to a 3rd party DRL/indicator unit like dectanes and then coded in to work as an indicator, it's all easily done though.


I understand what you're saying.
But I believe if you disconnect your indicator in the lower grill you will have a bulb warning light.
Maybe try it :)
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby Cjaay90 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:16 pm

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Here is the coming home byte.
I've tried everything that is possible i think with vagcom, but there is no way the module accept.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby charliegilmanuk » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:25 pm

xjay1337 wrote:I understand what you're saying.
But I believe if you disconnect your indicator in the lower grill you will have a bulb warning light.
Maybe try it :)

Haven't actually tested it but I can imagine you're right there, I've found a kufatec adapter to change non R sidelights into R DRLs (with the actual DRL unit of course) but whether the reverse is possible I'm not sure. I would imagine it would be a case of changing some pins in the dashboard module and then a bit of coding of course.

Cjaay90 wrote:Image

Here is the coming home byte.
I've tried everything that is possible i think with vagcom, but there is no way the module accept.

That is very different to mine indeed, likely because it's a newer module not because it's from an R, you can try changing the binary to either:
01110110
01111100

This effectively changes either bit 1 or bit 3, but really I'm just guessing, try find a byte that has some sidelight or DRL stuff which has gaps in the bytes, and remember the binary is written back to front, bit 0 is at the end of the string. I fiddled around with it until something happened. Spent ages to try and get all my dipped beam, sidelights and DRL on at the same but no joy.

Just make sure you've got a backup of your original coding, I would only change one at a time, test, and revert if no result, repeat.
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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby charliegilmanuk » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:15 pm

Another discovery this evening, see below. This was done after I put everything back to default coding. Default was 0, changing it to 100 (or in between) makes it so the indicators are always on and yet still flash as normal when indicating. Not sure on the legality of this but it sounds like what you're after.

As you can see it's in byte 7 on mine but I imagine you'll be able to find it somewhere in your newer module.

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Re: turn signal on constantly, vagcom.

Postby xjay1337 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:53 pm

Yes that is the "US Spec" running lights done on many Mk5s.
Around 20-30% is fine. Higher than that and it's distracting to other people.
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