Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

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Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby SmiffyDSG » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:27 pm

For anyone who is just about to enjoy their first winter with a Scirocco, specifically ones that leave their cars parked outside overnight, now would be a good time to invest in a can of 3 in 1 silicon spray (or the like).
Give all the rubbers that have any contact with your drivers and passengers window a thorough soaking. That way when the frost comes you won't have that feeling of horror when you unlock the doors and the windows don't drop, leaving you wondering how on earth you are going to open the doors ! :)
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby mike-p » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:53 pm

Gummipfledge works wonders too.
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby Sanders83 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:18 pm

Blimey! Didn't think of that. Is it really that much of a problem?
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby trix » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:22 pm

or krytox :) eta: you only need a few drops per seal, a little goes a long way :D

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it depends where you keep your car overnight, it is worth doing anyway as you never seem to know what the weather is going to do during the winter days now.
& worth noting if the windows get frozen & 'confuse' themselves (don't return to closed) then they can be reset by completely winding down then up

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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby Ian_Mac » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:45 pm

I'm debating whether to fit a set of front mud flaps to try and save the sides from all the crap on the road. :eek:

Already been into the dealers for a set of rubber overmats but they didn't have any in stock. :cry:
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby trix » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:53 pm

i think they always have to order them in Ian, they only take a few days to come in. they are very worthwhile, i've got a pair, need to swap them into the car at some point soon actually..

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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby The Don » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:48 pm

Is this an issue with VWs? I live in Scotland, and I've never had issues with getting doors/windows open on my Toyotas.

Does the cold generally affect it?
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby trix » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:42 pm

its because the scirocco has frameless windows.
all cars with frameless windows wil be affected because (in simple terms) instead of having a metal frame at the top of the door with seals where you pull the frame away from the body you have the window glass up in the channel of window seal therefore the motor has to 'pull' the window down before you can open the door, if there is any resistance ie ice, it will not put excessive pressure on the motor to lower the window the required amount (so that the motor doesn't burn out) by lubricating the window seals with any of the suggestions above (which are designed to impregnate the seals to a certain extent) they will be more pliable and less likely to freeze solid and freeze against the window glass.

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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby Jane » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:56 pm

I had forgotten all about this having owned a car with framless windows before, it is a real problem, and the cold wind sure does blow where i am, where do i get Krytox from Trix ? never heard of it. A little job i definatly need to do.
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby RW1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:06 pm

Hi jane,

The cheap source on Ebay (just checked) at £2 is not showing but here's the VW product, expensive at the dealers but bear in mind a couple of tear drops does a window for several weeks. Apply a drop by putting on finger tip and running down the outer seal. You just have to rub it into the rubber with a rag.

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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby Sanders83 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:29 pm

Does it leave smear marks on the top of the windows?
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby RW1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:41 pm

Yes it does.

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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby Chungster » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:03 pm

I bought this back in Feb.

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Will apply it to the seals soon!
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby DAR » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:15 pm

^^^^^

Good stuff, used it on the Ed30 then the Cayman S and now the Roc. The Roc has a similar set up to the cayman with regards the front windows.

I also found it stopped a slight squeak I had on the cayman, when the window moved slightly on the rubber, when driving on rough roads.
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby Andy-GTI » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:55 pm

Its water collecting and freezing on the outer scraper seal that prevents the window drop, not the seals on the edges of the glass.
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby Jane » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:04 pm

RW1 wrote:Hi jane,

The cheap source on Ebay (just checked) at £2 is not showing but here's the VW product, expensive at the dealers but bear in mind a couple of tear drops does a window for several weeks. Apply a drop by putting on finger tip and running down the outer seal. You just have to rub it into the rubber with a rag.

Krytox

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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby Ian_Mac » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:02 pm

trix wrote:i think they always have to order them in Ian, they only take a few days to come in. they are very worthwhile, i've got a pair, need to swap them into the car at some point soon actually..

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Yeah they said they could get them in next day but it was VW in Stoke I'd popped into while driving home from Carlisle.

Not got round to popping into Bath or Bristol VW yet, must do it soon.
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby The Don » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:12 am

trix wrote:its because the scirocco has frameless windows.
all cars with frameless windows wil be affected because (in simple terms) instead of having a metal frame at the top of the door with seals where you pull the frame away from the body you have the window glass up in the channel of window seal therefore the motor has to 'pull' the window down before you can open the door, if there is any resistance ie ice, it will not put excessive pressure on the motor to lower the window the required amount (so that the motor doesn't burn out) by lubricating the window seals with any of the suggestions above (which are designed to impregnate the seals to a certain extent) they will be more pliable and less likely to freeze solid and freeze against the window glass.

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Ah right, yeah, that will be why I've not had issues with the Avensis. :D

I guess there would be a case for a winter remote start for cars with frameless windows.
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby Shaun » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:09 am

To be fare i have had issues with both the Golf and the wifes fiesta when it was really cold even though i had used Gummi pflege both cars were stuck shut !!, a bit of luke warm water helped though, i will be looking for some of that special £30 VW stuff, if anoyne knows of an online seller please let me know :-)
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Re: Your 1st winter as a Scirocco owner

Postby Chungster » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:56 pm

182_blue....

TPS + discount FTW!!!
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