DSG or No DSG?

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DSG or No DSG?

Postby LLD123 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:05 pm

I’m going to be looking for a TDI next month or early next year. I’ve heard some horror stories & been told to stay clear from DSG. Now this is only one person I’ve spoken to so not sure what the general opinion is.
I’m ideally looking to get a 170. There’s a lot of DSG’s for sale & hardly any manuals.

What are people’s opinions & what-should I look out for?
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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby Roy_01 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:09 pm

270k km without any problems with dsg. I really love it.
But if you don't drive a lot of mileage a manual is also fine.
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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby Cuprabob » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:11 pm

Drive both and get the one you prefer.

If that turns out to be DSG then make sure the oil and filter have been done at least every 40k miles. The main failures tend to be the Mechatronics Unit which is expensive to replace but there are companies who can repair them / refurbish them for reasonable money.
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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby LLD123 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:13 pm

Cuprabob wrote:Drive both and get the one you prefer.


Think that’s what I’m going to have to do. DSG does sound fun!!


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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby LLD123 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:13 pm

Roy_01 wrote:270k km without any problems with dsg. I really love it.
But if you don't drive a lot of mileage a manual is also fine.


Oh wow that sounds promising!! I suppose it depends what comes up for sale as well


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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby Zanic L3 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:53 pm

DSG pops on upshifts
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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby Kev » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:45 pm

DSG all the way.

Horror stories are very few and far between compared to the hundreds of thousands of units they've sold.

I've had DSG's now since 2009 and love it. It's actually the best of both worlds. When you're in traffic the auto option takes away the need to keep pumping the clutch. When you want to get on it you can use the paddles and it's very involving. I wouldn't go back and sales are steadily tipping away from manuals year on year.
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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby Springs » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:09 am

my TDI 170 has DSG and ive had no problems. tho i'm sure i'm due a service on it.

My dad's golf GTI's with DSG as well have had no problems either
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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby Paradox1 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:49 am

Dont think DSG diesels pop.

DSG all the way. havent driven a diesel one though
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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby scottwilliams97 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:21 pm

I think DSG is better.. and I have a manual LOL

both have benefits, but I'll be picking DSG for my next car 100%
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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby Psycho Kirky » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:16 pm

I have manual and always will unless I physically cant change gear someday.

DSG will beat a manual car of the same spec down the 1/4 mile for instance.

There is less driver input generally, I like the engineering behind it and it is very popular and reliable also, just not the amount involvement you have with the car.

Practical but boring, not for driving fanatics if you ask me. It is doing it for you. (You don't see automatic gearboxes in Fast & Furios lol).

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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby Harley9696 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:39 pm

I have a 2.0 tsi dsg scirocco and it’s fantastic, when you feel like having a good drive put it in sports mode and hear it pop, I also love using the paddles aswell. I would struggle going back to a Manual! Just keep your dsg box serviced


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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby CG8589 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:07 pm

Psycho Kirky wrote:I have manual and always will unless I physically cant change gear someday.

DSG will beat a manual car of the same spec down the 1/4 mile for instance.

There is less driver input generally, I like the engineering behind it and it is very popular and reliable also, just not the amount involvement you have with the car.

Practical but boring, not for driving fanatics if you ask me. It is doing it for you. (You don't see automatic gearboxes in Fast & Furios lol).

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You’re right, no auto boxes in Fast & Furious. They do have manuals with 47 gears though
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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby LLD123 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:03 am

Psycho Kirky wrote:I have manual and always will unless I physically cant change gear someday.

DSG will beat a manual car of the same spec down the 1/4 mile for instance.

There is less driver input generally, I like the engineering behind it and it is very popular and reliable also, just not the amount involvement you have with the car.

Practical but boring, not for driving fanatics if you ask me. It is doing it for you. (You don't see automatic gearboxes in Fast & Furios lol).

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That’s exactly my initial opinions on DSG. I always enjoyed driving the car. If you get a good gear change then it’s you that’s done that not the car.
However I can see both sides and the fact that with the DSG the car knows when best to change gear. However does that take the fun out of driving as it’s simply foot down and go?!


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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby LLD123 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:04 am

Harley9696 wrote:I have a 2.0 tsi dsg scirocco and it’s fantastic, when you feel like having a good drive put it in sports mode and hear it pop, I also love using the paddles aswell. I would struggle going back to a Manual! Just keep your dsg box serviced


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I currently have a 2.0 TSI manual and love it. The pops are great fun. However going to diesel I may miss those pops haha


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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby LLD123 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:05 am

Kev wrote:DSG all the way.

Horror stories are very few and far between compared to the hundreds of thousands of units they've sold.

I've had DSG's now since 2009 and love it. It's actually the best of both worlds. When you're in traffic the auto option takes away the need to keep pumping the clutch. When you want to get on it you can use the paddles and it's very involving. I wouldn't go back and sales are steadily tipping away from manuals year on year.


Ah ok. Good to hear from someone who has had them a while and not had any issues. It’s easier driving as well I suppose but can use the paddle shifts if you want to change the gears yourself


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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby LLD123 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:05 am

scottwilliams97 wrote:I think DSG is better.. and I have a manual LOL

both have benefits, but I'll be picking DSG for my next car 100%


Hahah really? Whys that? You had a go in one, I’m guessing there is a big difference....


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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby Zanic L3 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:20 pm

LLD123 wrote:
Harley9696 wrote:I have a 2.0 tsi dsg scirocco and it’s fantastic, when you feel like having a good drive put it in sports mode and hear it pop, I also love using the paddles aswell. I would struggle going back to a Manual! Just keep your dsg box serviced


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I currently have a 2.0 TSI manual and love it. The pops are great fun. However going to diesel I may miss those pops haha


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Do manuals also pop? I thought that something that only the DSG did
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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby TriGGER » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:35 pm

I've had a manual before upto 205,000 miles and now I have one... I kept dithering between the two but o thought the manual would be more engaging... I loved the thought of having launch control on the dsg... at the end of the day I do long miles and to ensure I don't nod off so easily I decided to stick with the manual

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Re: DSG or No DSG?

Postby skippy » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:36 pm

I am fortunate to have both (not on the same car of course!), but we also own a Polo GTI DSG. When I first drove it, I did feel detached from the car and not involved with the driving experience in anyway. After originally owning a Fiesta ST, it felt a bit boring. However... Once I started using the DSG properly, and switching the lever into manual mode and using the paddles, it brings on a completely different driving dimension altogether, and I love it. Once back in traffic, just move it back to auto and let the car do all the heavy work.

My Scirocco is manual, and it is great to switch to that and get a real old school driving experience again. My next car though, will be DSG all the way, and that is the way technology is going anyway.
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